thissitesuxs wrote:i think the lot of ya are talking bullsh*t. GLOBAL WARMING IS ALOAD OF BOLLOCKS AND SO IS THE COMET.

Global warming is bollocks you say, Have you actually looked into this and seen the proof by SCIENTIST?
if you have children i sugguest you wake the f*** up and start thinking about their future.
If your not contributing to anything that can help our childrens future then your just selfish.

Wow. This is where the sczhitzos meet?
Science has proven that:
a. It's physically IMPOSSIBLE for the planets to align because we are in a 3 domentional universe and there are more variables then just x and y
b. There is a planet X
c. We won't be getting hit by anything in the nearing future (1k years) but will be coming closest in a very long time in 2012.
d. Human beings are not a monogomous species
e. Religion was created in order to inflict fear and to control larges masses of people we today refer to as "society". The laymen or end user of religion has, over many years, dulled the control aspect and turned it as a basis of instructing morals and a means to nullifying the sheer impact of devistations created by life.

I love how there's one guy who is a member and is creating multiple guest accounts stating that "he's having a similar dream".

"In One Of My "Realistic Dreams" I Was Driving Down A Road, Nobody Was Around, It Was Dusk, And As I Looked Down The Road I Saw A Giant Moon"
-Whats a "realistic dream"? Aren't all dreams fable and made up in our heads while we sleep? If not, how can we prove what we drempt? No one else see's what we see in our sleep and who knows if we even know what we see in our dreams is true. There are ALOT of habitual liars in the world and this type of person could see one thing in his dreams and then wake up and think something COMPLETELY different happened because he/she sold himself on a lie or what they want to believe.

-What's a giant moon? Are you talking about OUR moon as it approaches the horizon? Or are you talking about someone else moon that is MUCH larger then ours?

Oh and the seed storage facilities are so that we can keep a copy of all species of plant incase any that are pertinant to us seem to be going extinct.

Global warming is a political fuel propeganda aimed to keep the price of gas up! Scientist have proven that global warming has been going on ever since the dinosaurs went extinct and it's just the planet rewarming to its original temperature. Now, the depletion of the ozone is true, but a different story. Ozone is the earths UV blocker and helps keep the temperature of the earth stable and warm by reflecting rays that bounced away from earth's surface, back down to us.

Stop fearing, you only have so long to live. If you live a life a fear, the only freedom you find is death and your exhistance will have seemed short.

Believe in Magic wrote:Oh and the seed storage facilities are so that we can keep a copy of all species of plant incase any that are pertinant to us seem to be going extinct.

ya think? lol, ok". the deep underground military bases are to keep copies of seed species. if that helps you get through the day, whatever". some of your ideas are intelligent and insightful, then you type other comments that are rude and uninformed. it seems to me you have not done much research on some of the subjects on which you comment.

cable guy wrote:I'm not sure where all of you get your information from. But the Mayan's predicted something awsome to happen in 2012, to be exact Dec 20th 2012. What astronomers/researchers have found is that all the planets will be aligned, something that hasn't happened for thousands of years. There is no mention of a comet or a killer comet. Only that the Mayans had no way to predict an event, and yet the stars will be aligned on said date.

I'm not someone who has any skills or really knows about this kind of thing. But I do have an open mind, and my gut intincts tell me this will be a spectacluar event. Not something to " fear ", but yet something to embrace as it might be the next big evolution jump for humankind.

Very interesting that their calendar ends with the planetary allignment. It sounds to me like their calendar was based upon planetary positions. If that is so, it proves they did what the Bible tells us the stars are for - signs (and wonders). They made use of those "signs" as we continue to use the Earth's motion relative to the Sun.

And in response to the fellow talking about life originating from evolution, it's an unobserved, unproved and unprovable, rather religious belief about the origin of the life on this planet. Saying there is life elsewhere remains a matter of faith as well. Neither belief can be called scientific - they just happen to go against God, and calling them scientific is saying that science is that which is against God (or against religion). But anyone who is convinced that he knows life's origins, the nature and age of the Earth, or any such unobservable and untestable claim, is just fooling himself. Let's just remain with the best wisdom - we don't know squat. We can guess and guess about things, but we do not know a thing. Only what science can actually observe, which is pretty limited - especially where outer space and matters of prehistory are concerned. Accepting that we do not know is also the basis for listening to God and trusting His word, which if you ignore pseudo-science like evolution-ex-nihilo and the old-earth-theory, remains true. We can't hope to accurately date the Earth, as we can't even begin to know how conditions were when the Earth was new. We also can't find anything, not one thing, that is older than mankind and actually know its age, allowing us to gauge our test methods. There is no way to confirm the results. And then there is evidence against it, such as various features on the planet (oldest desert, oldest trees) being around 4,000 years old, and the moon moving away from the Earth. If it's always been moving away at its present rate, it can't have been doing so for millions of years. It would have been too close. And there isn't enough dust on Earth or on the moon from space to account for such age. And so on.

Not saying the Bible must be the truth, as again, we can't know. Not without faith, anyway. A belief in evolution is no more valid than believing in creation by God. And as for Nibiru, let's see it. It ought to be visible by now. I expect an object will indeed strike the planet in the end, and no amount of knowledge or technology will be able to stop it. Heck, might be "wormwood" from people trying to stop it, polluting it with radiation that then gets spread around the Earth at impact. Now there's a thought..

Believe in Magic wrote:Oh and the seed storage facilities are so that we can keep a copy of all species of plant incase any that are pertinant to us seem to be going extinct.

Global warming is a political fuel propeganda aimed to keep the price of gas up! Scientist have proven that global warming has been going on ever since the dinosaurs went extinct and it's just the planet rewarming to its original temperature. Now, the depletion of the ozone is true, but a different story. Ozone is the earths UV blocker and helps keep the temperature of the earth stable and warm by reflecting rays that bounced away from earth's surface, back down to us.

Stop fearing, you only have so long to live. If you live a life a fear, the only freedom you find is death and your exhistance will have seemed short.

Sorry, I have to help you out here. It's "existence." Also, who cares how long or short existence felt in the end? Once you're dead, you're not going to notice one way or the other. And then there are all those whose existence is truly short.
Scientists can't "prove" that anything has been going on for a longer time than they have been taking measurements. Can't prove something unobserved. You look to "scientists" religiously to tell you the truth. Good luck with that. Hope they prove an afterlife for you, too, though they seem sadly determined to support the atheist view.
I do believe the world is still warming up since the ice age, and I wonder just when it will reach its high point, and if it will cool again. I don't believe in multiple ice ages, and see no way it could be demonstrated true. Not til we see another one come along. Rather than being cyclical, I'd say it's part of a natural disaster, and probably the only one that could cause such a thing would be an asteroid or comet impact. Or the hand of God Himself, though I don't see why He wouldn't use a thing like that. Pure speculation there, though. Given the lack of information available about world origins, I prefer to trust in the Bible on the matter. It's not science that says the world is billions of years old and life evolved from chemicals. The latter doesn't even pass the common sense test, and the former, while it could just as well be true, is without basis. It's just said to support evolutionary theory, which requires a LOT of time and a LOT of faith, because chemicals don't normally become amino acids, proteins and then something living. Is there a life-form more simple than the virus? Even if you got a virus to form out of a pool of amino acids (as likely as a tornado building a jumbo jet out of a junk yard), viri need cells to reproduce. And cells are a LOT more complex than a virus, and do not form randomly. I cringe at the idea, and that people can actually believe something so stupid.

There is proof of the age of earth and items on it. Its called carbon dating. People of a religous belief refuse to see these facts. It would prove religiouns origins and no one wants to believe that they've wasted half their time on earth believing in the wrong thing.
It's called sticking to your guns and I believe when used properly, works great!

Lalit Pradhan wrote:

Grateful Dead wrote:People also thought the world was going to end at the turn of the millenium, well here we are 2008 and we are fine. If anything destroys us first, it will be ourselves destroying our environment and global warming.

There's a theory about how the calendars are 12 years off, so 2012 is really 2000.

cable guy wrote:What astronomers/researchers have found is that all the planets will be aligned, something that hasn't happened for thousands of years.

The probability that all the planets will line up in exactly a straight line from the Sun is once in 1.8 x 10^14 years. That's considerably longer than the solar system is likely to exist. It for sure isn't happening as far out as anyone has bothered to calculate.

So I'd like you to cite a source for this "fact", the names and affiliations of the astronomers and researchers you say have made this claim.

Now, there are "loose" alignments fairly frequently. About every 200 years or so, the planets "line up" within a few degrees of a hypothetical straight line. Although Great Conjunctions, as they're called, have no regular pattern, we had one in 1962 and will have them again in 2040 and 2100. After that, there won't be another one for 300 years. In 1982, all nine planets aligned. Here we are.

cable guy wrote:I'm not someone who has any skills or really knows about this kind of thing.

Then you shouldn't be citing non-existent astronomers and researchers allegedly spouting nonsense.

cable guy wrote:But I do have an open mind, and my gut intincts tell me this will be a spectacluar event. Not something to " fear ", but yet something to embrace as it might be the next big evolution jump for humankind.

Sigh. That's been the drumbeat for generations. For instance, this guy (http://www.luckystarz.com/Catharsis/Chapters/grand.html) who predicted doom and/or a grand spiritual awakening as a result of the 1982 conjunction, and even bigger things for the 2000 conjunction:
"But it is the May 3rd of 2000 Grand Alignment with Jupiter at the Center of the Taurean cluster with hard aspects to Uranus and Neptune which triggers the feeling in my gut of the Big One. I suggest humanity come together in Spirit on this day as a global family to raise the collective energy to channel the surge of cosmic juice into positive transformation."

Yet, here we are.

Since you admit to knowing nothing about the subject, you should probably just go have a beer and relax.

...about the calander years. I agree totaly that by now, our calander is NOT accurate to the "Mayan's".Why ? Because makind keep fooling around with time ! Look at daylight saving time.WTF is that !I don't beleive in god but wow man, now we're playing with time !I think they completely screwed us up ! Look at the seasons, didn't you noticed how summer(the temps) hit in May , and ends mid July? It use to be June t'ill Aug.Same with Winter. The Calander/Season has been shift too mauch, that the weather itself is making it noticable.It's not "Global Warming", is Ops, we screwed up time !Back everything up one month, and I bet the weather/warmth etc... will all align itself back to normal again.(Like it should be).

You want to put your money on science? Helo ? A meteor nearly smashed into Mid Canada this month, where did that prediction/observation/science no it all , go ? Let me guess, everyone's telescope was in the shop getting fixed that day ...

Anyhoo, back to Mayan prediction...Meh , I believe it came and went ! Just like everyone's fear in 2000.Something will happened, when it happens.If and IF science can acctually see something coming in our direct path, then why hide it ? It's like anything else right ? What , you think your gonna live forever ? Wake-up, your gonna die reguardless ! There ! Wasn't that a slap in the face ! I say, keep smoking, drinking watever your doing, do it ! YOU CAN NOT ESCAPE DEATH !

....with that said tho, live life to it's fulless, and nevermind anything heading our way, or calanders/ or science predictions, or my grandpas stories !


Oh and wake up clowns, Jesus was just another "Prophet" walking around thinking he knows it all. Not suprising, we're surrounded by retards around the globe thinking they know it all